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09/05/2019

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OC Dolphin

Place me in group #1 with 0-3 wins.

However, my instincts tell me otherwise, that they'll win four to six games and miss out on both the playoffs and chances at obtaining one of the top QBs.

the shadow knows

OC Dolphin,

new thread great!!! somewhere between 4-6 wins, which i guess puts me in at 5-11. a great weekend to all!!

FZB

Ok, ok, ok...you twisted my arm, here is my prediction for the year..

14-2 .... err, excuse me...I was daydreaming a bit there, .....Im going with?

2-14...

Yup, pain now, greatness ( hopefully) in about 2-3 yrs down the road.

Go Dolphins!!!

Canes better beat NC , that's all I can say.

FZB

All the so called NFL experts are saying Miami's talent is worse than the Browns when they went 0-16 and 1-15 a couple of yrs back...ouch!.. no bueno.

Guess what?... I'm totally onboard with it, we have been stuck in mediocrity for decades, all thanks to owners such as Ross than thought a quick fix was in order, the only long term solution is to do it through the draft, hopefully Grier and Flores are the right combination.

We just signed another offensive lineman stiff of the street to help with the O Line, it can't hurt right?..

Tom

Good Morning Gents

Another season brings hope for the future. Maybe Tua next year or Trevor in 2021. At this moment we can all have the audacity to hope the Dolphins have finally figured out the NFL.

As OC correctly suggests 0-3 is Valhalla for Fish fans but 4-7 is Hell. I believe the Fish are perfectly positioned to finally deliver to their fans a perfect 0-16 season. But sadly my better instincts tell me they will fuck this up beyond all imagination.

My prediction 4-7 wins and if I was predicting the exact record it would be 6-10.

Sad but that's the state of the Dolphins.

Jimbo

2-14. Jimbo.

Jimbo

Short Dolphins comment. This will be a unique season in Miami. IMO their preseason approach continues until the bye week. Fins are trying to sort out the good from the bad throughout their roster. Somehow find a serviceable starting 5 on the O line. Okay talent at RB, WR. Fitzpatrick at QB early, Rosen will start after the bye.
Miami's best scenario is discovering a very good defense by November. There is potential on that side. Injuries could derail any chance at a win due to lack of depth. Special teams and defense is going to eek out a win or two.

the shadow knows

WOEFUL!!!!

what has always been a strong point, their kicking game, has unraveled this young season. UM has sent kicker after kicker to the pros, but this bubba baxa guy needs real help. miami has star quality players on offense, and certainly will improve. but giving up a 4th and 17 at games end didn't help. either did missed FGs and PATs. they have FAMU next, so their spirits will be up after that wipeout. deejay dallas seems like NFL caliber material and the QB was excellent last night.

the shadow knows

Big Baby,

well, another el tri victory against the USA. some of the european players that mexico has were in the lineup, and it showed (via highlights). the niño del oro says that the americans get "afraid" when they go up against mexico!!! the current mens's team is really bad, and that guy deft has to make a choice between playing for the dutch or the gringos. he would be brave to decide on the red, white and blue.

Mr. Woodcock

"Bad team man, bad fucking team."

the shadow knows

BRIAN FLORES DEFENSIVE COACH?

geez, has the dolphin defense (and offense) looked lousy!! unable to stop the ravens thus far!!

Mr. Woodcock

Bad team man, bad fucking team.

Mr. Woodcock

Bad team man, bad fucking team.

OC Dolphin

They are right in this game.

OC Dolphin

...Right in the toilet.

FZB

Watching the beginning of the Dolphins season and we are right on schedule, our D sucks and Fitz just got intercepted, 0-16 here we come !

FZB

We are only down 35-3 in the second Q, shit we can come back from this ... go Dolphins!!! Let’s do this !!!

Big Baby

Never expected this bad an effort. Coaching staff fail.

OC Dolphin

Man. There are empty seats everywhere.

OC Dolphin

Parker and Preston are the lone bright spots.

OC Dolphin

Preston Williams, that is.

OC Dolphin

They are making Lamar Jackson look like the best QB in history. 10/11, 4 TDS.

Woods

42-10 AT THE HALF!

AAAAAHHHHHAAAAA

BAD TEAM MAN, BAD FUCKING TEAM.

WHO GOOFED IVE GOT TO KNOW.

AAAAAAAHHHHHHAAAA.


Woods

And the team I'm playing started Lamar Jackson.

I blame Donna Shalala for this fiasco.

Fuck you Trust Fund.

OC Dolphin

Whao, an I am Kazam reference!

the shadow knows

ADAM GASE= QB GURU/OFFENSIVE GENIUS HIRED BY THE NYJ!!!!!

8-0 owing to an INT TD and a safety!!!he and slow thinking sam darn old sure are clicking!!!! 8-0!!!b hope it stays that way, but the bills are a TD away from a tie; are the dolphins gonna be able to beat either of these bottom feeders?

OC Dolphin

Time to refine predictions down to the 0-16 level.

the shadow knows

ENTER "THE BEAK"!!!!!

well, he has his chance; bur down 42 points is asking a little too much for "the beak", or anybody else.

OC Dolphin

Right about now many of the top realtors in Weston are flooding Tua Tagovailoa home options.

OC Dolphin

First pass intercepted. The Horor.

the shadow knows

"THE BEAK"!!!!!

didn't take long for him to throw one to the ravens!!! "the beak" springs a leak!!!!!

FZB

We can still come back, I think ... we are only down 59-10

Woods

58 and counting.

"Drew Brees!"

FZB

Who’s Kazam ?

Big Baby

Di*k move by Harbaugh going for it on 4th down. What an ahole.

the shadow knows

RAVENS HAVE TWO HEISMAN WINNERS AT QB!!!!

RGIII looks healthy and he was a phenom at baylor but got thrown into the first with the redskins. conspicuous lack of penalties for the ravens, many for the dolphins.

the shadow knows

ADAM GASE!!! SAM DARNOLD!!!

who the hell made the decisions to saddle the NYJ with these two losers? what did adam gase show in miami that would make an intra-division sign him up? and the slow witted sam darnold had his best game in the rose bowl against penn stat and has shown how bad he is since then. game on the line and dumb old sam throws tippled and flutter balls. very QB taken after sam darnold has proven to be better than him.

the shadow knows

TIME TO SEE HOW KELLEN MOORE DOES WITH THE COWBOY OFFENSE...

hope dallas loses every game 50-49!! don't know if i have ever seen a better college QB than kellen moore was at boise; time to see if he has brought a high tech offense to the NFL

FZB

Stay positive boys , we only have 60 more quarters of misery left, 0-16 is locked up already, easy peasey ..

OC Dolphin

Very young team, rookie coach, next to nothing blue chip players and a new system. Sight unseen dolfans may have hoped for the best. A hint of something positive to build on, but the team could not complete even that.

Let’s hope that this 49 point trouncing (could have just as easily been 56 had they not run out the clock at the four) marks the worst game Flores will have while coach of the Dolphins. Let’s hope every game from here on out builds towards success-

the shadow knows

OFFENSE? NO PROBLEM FOR DALLAS TODAY!!!!!

thrilled that my guy kellen moore is orchestrating a terrific looking offense; he certainly was given the talent to succeed with the cowboys.

Tom

A perfect game by the Dolphins. Could not have gone better.

OC Dolphin

What’s the over and under for the first time TV shows dolfans wearing grocery bags, game two?

OC Dolphin

Come to think of it, it’s quite natural. Go to any aquarium throughout the land and you’ll find dolphins going in circles in a tank.

OC Dolphin

Making light of the situation is the only way I find, to remain sane.

the shadow knows

OC Dolphin,

you have got the right attitude; take it from a longtime bengal fan!!!! Be Blessed, and we shall seee if NE will find a way to lose in south florida again next sunday.

Big Baby

shadow,

No surprise to me the result of USA vs Mexico. They have had the better squad for quite some time. Maybe Pulisic's comments were taken out of context I don't know. Not sure they are playing scared just don't have the talent to compete. I am already beginning to question the new coach tactics.

Woods

https://deadspin.com/the-dolphins-arent-enjoying-this-fiasco-any-more-than-y-1837977710

Woods

"See if NE will lose next week at Miami....."

AAAAAAHHHHHHAAAAAAA.

That game may just be taken off the board in Vegas.

50 point underdogs?

Akin to Alabama playing Southwest Louisiana.

the shadow knows

Woods,

thought you might get a chuckle out of what i wrote; however, NE does find some strange ways to lose down here!! however, this miami team is absolutely putrid and could finish closer to 0-16 than my "bold" prediction of 5-11. hope all is well.

the shadow knows

Bıig Baby,

#1 in the world- easy-belgium

Big Baby

I am embracing the tank. Took me all of one game. If they have a chance to draft Tua then they should. Worked for the Colts for a while anyway. Tua seems as close to a sure thing as there is.

The entire team is players on rookie contracts or players who have played their first game in the league. Winning games is meaningless it's about finding out who will be a part of the future. It's Tua or bust.

the shadow knows

Big Baby,

reports already out that several dolphins want their agents to trade them, which would be fine with this regime that wants to stockpile draft choices.

the shadow knows

BOOGER, SHUT UP!!!!

this guy just can't keep his trap shut, making the game unlistenable. his partner is no bargain either.

Big Baby

joe tessatore. not great. totally agree on mcfarland. watching these two playoff teams makes you realize how far miami has to go. Common denominator? Star QB's.

OC Dolphin

Phenomenal game. This is why one views sports. One second you’re certain you’re walking out with a win, then you’re crushed.

Fantastic performances everywhere, and to think we could have had Brees all these years. Man, what a mistake that was.

OC Dolphin

Tunsil played reasonably well, but for that last play in giving up the sack. I didn’t see Alonzo enter, but could be wrong. Anyway Stills almost won the game for them and Ginn Jr. contributed big-time.

Woods

Well the Doñphs may suck but my Fantasy team, which Yahoo rand word in my League with a D grande, went and score "204" pinta on opening weekend crushing the competition.

Those fucks at Yahoo dont know javk shit.

I may change my team name from "Just blow me" to "Mr. 204."

Oh yea.

Fuck the Dolphins.

Woods

Week 1
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JUST BLOW ME earn win against Alcon in 204.26-137.78 rout
Both teams exceeded their projected point totals, but JUST BLOW ME took down Alcon. Predicted to prevail by a score of 118.77-114.92, JUST BLOW ME rolled to a 204.26-137.78 win over Alcon. Alcon got out to a 5.00-point lead on Thursday, but it was all JUST BLOW ME after that. They were led by Sammy Watkins, who caught 9 passes for 198 yards and 3 touchdowns for 42.3 points, and Christian McCaffrey, who racked up 209 yards from scrimmage and ran for 2 touchdowns (37.9 points). Lamar Jackson (324 Pass Yds, 5 Pass TDs) and DeSean Jackson (8 Rec, 154 Rec Yds, 2 Rec TDs) carried the flag for Alcon in the loss. JUST BLOW ME (1-0) will look to sustain their momentum against Hot Panda Sex, while Alcon (0-1) try to right the ship against chente's gente.
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the shadow knows

Big Baby,

USA vs uruguay coukldbe a rout, if uruguay plays their front line players. el tri and argentina? seems like mexico has a more experienced team; the albiceleste looked very tyoung in the last tournemamnt.

the shadow knows

Big Baby,

wrong and wrong!! el tri got mashed; give up a hat trick in the first half to one player.

Big Baby

albicelestes JV team came to play what a thrashing.

Big Baby

Decent effort by USMNT as well.

OC Dolphin

The current spread for the Pats/Dolphs game this coming Sunday is 18.5 points. My feeling is that Belichick will try to win, of course, but that he’ll try to keep his foot off the gas in a desire not to embarrass a past colleague. Take the under.

Here’s an equally easy call to bet on, albeit somewhat more obscure to find.

The first week of play brought us 16 matchups, resulting in 14 defeats. Given similar mathematical reductions (seven 0-2 teams, four 0-3, two 0-4), it says here that the Dolphins will reach their goal for having the worst league record After the Redskins game on 10/13.

the shadow knows

OC Dolphin,

didn't belichek lose to his former assistants last year a couple of times? 19.5 points favorites leaves a lot of wiggle room; i believe that taking the - is probably the best thing to do for those who bet.

the shadow knows

Big baby,

certainly was argentina's JV team; el tri didn't manage a shot on goal the entire game. maybe they were still hallucinating after bashing the gringos friday night. i didn't see the USA as playing very well; uruguay scored on a beautiful shot past guzan on the counter that went in on the short side; the americans scored off some some really sloppy play that allowed a chested goal for the score. at least they scored for a change!!!

FZB

The Rosen watch has started from my point of view, I say give or take we will see Rosen take over at QB by week 5 ...unless Fitz gets put in the hospital before that which is a real possibility behind our offensive line.

I say we lose sunday 43 -3

We are right on schedule boys..

OC Dolphin

Minkah Fitzpatrick wants out. The overall #11 pick in 2018 doesn’t like the way coaching is using him, and the Dolphins granted him and his agent permission to seek a trade.

Too bad for Minkah. He’s just announced himself a malcontent and not likely to be moved, as the Dolphins have made it abundantly clear (see Tunsil) that anything short of a boatload of picks will not dislodge a recent, young first round pick.

So many youngsters today seem to be absent of common sense. One simply doesn’t inform their boss that they think the company they work for sucks and that they hate what they’re doing -then expect a promotion. Moreover, when it’s their first job.

Big Baby

I would move Minkah for a case of Gatorade right now. Another Tannenbaum bust. Can't cover, can't tackle if we're starting over we can do it without this guy.

the shadow knows

citizens,

this is looming as the disastrous season that many have predicted. it was incredible to hear the broadcasters state that 17 or so of the dolphins who played against the ravens arrived during the course of the preceding week. boy, does miami have some dog pro teams going for them right now. methinks the panthers may be the most competitive of the teams we call local. have a great weekend!!!

the shadow knows

Big Baby,

the basketball albiceleste have made it to the finals; guesss they will be playing australia, or maybe serbia. check that- spain!!! courtesy of one of the gasol brothers. have always loved international basketball and they are sending many players here to compete in the NBA. it would be nice if our league enforced the rules of the game.

Mr. Woodcock

We're beating New England! We're beating New England!
We're beating New England!

Quiet, I'm trying to have California declare me insane so that I can get all of the free stuff they're giving away like it was candy.

Mr. Woodcock

I've said it over and over here, stop drafting anyone before you take a quarterback who finally can play.

What's the point of drafting any other position when you dont have a quarterback.

I wouldnt draft a defensive back with the first pick in any draft even if it was Ed Reed or Ronnie Lott.

Quarterback, quarterback, quarterback.

Once again they get taken yo the woodshed and take a hybrid safety/corner and passed on Jackson last year who passed for 5 touchdowns in one half against them.

Why shit I dont know shit about football I'm a real estate guy. What's the Dolphins' front office's excuse?

Mr. Woodcock

Hey, Rosie just told me that Sleepy Old Joe's false teeth fell out of his mouth while trying to
Answer a question at last night's disastrous debate that got a lower rating than summer reruns of "Let's Make a Deal."

Gezziz, I'm glad I dont watch those snoozefests because I would have stroked out laughing had i seen that.

I may ask Rosie to record Old Joe's answers from now on. I can always use a good laugh and he's turning out to a better joke than Eddie Murphy on HBO.

Geez Red, I thought that Obamacare was supposed to be good insurance. If they can't glue Biden's fake teeth to his grill then it really must be the piece of shit that everyone says it is.

And how about that "gramaphone" remark. Holy shit gramaphones went out when my grandmother was in grade school!

And this is your frontrunner.

I'm dying here.

Mr. Woodcock

You just cant make this stuff up. I cant wait for next year's debates.

Trump must be salivating at the thought.

WTF, he can't afford implants.

George Washington had better teeth than this clown.

Mr. Woodcock

Pocahontas said that Joe needs lowered expectations.

She said that he should get credit if he can walk up on the stage at the next debate without falling down, losing his teeth, or peeing in his pants.

You should write one of your "I wrote a letter to my Vice President" letters telling him that he better wear black pants for the debate so it will hide the piss and shit stains on his trousers. On second thought, you better send that letter to his campaign manager. Joe lost his glasses last night when he was looking for his teeth.

OC Dolphin

Woods,

Biden is being held together with crazy glue. Rosie is right. Joe could be seen trying to secure his upper dentures (as if he were chewing gum) while the moderator was presenting him a question. No sooner the question was asked and Joe needed to answer, the words that came out were indistinguishable, and sounded like whistling. El pobre.

FZB

Minkah wants out!!!.

So?... If we get a couple of premium picks, say a numero uno and numero dos ( 1 and 2 ) I'll do it, how bout this..

Minkah and Drake for two one's a second and a fifth rounder...yeah, I would do that too.

Im beginning to have doubts about our defensive coordinator, I know last week was his first game but no adjustments?.. come on!

Is anyone watching how far left the liberals are now ?...they wanna fucking destroy our country and give everyone free shit, what assholes, with all due respect , anyone that votes for a democrat in 2020 needs to have their heads examined.

Did I see that Biden's dentures got loose during the last dem's devate?.. hahahahaha, niw that was funny.

I think we can hold NE down to 44 pts , final score is 44 - 10 NE.

FZB

one moe thing...

Boys, remember the prize at the end of the rainbow, yup, Tua..only 60 more quarters of misery.

Saw a fantastic great old movie a couple of days ago, was lucky enough to tape it too,

Gentleman Jim by Erroll Flynn, loved every minute of it, Im going to watch it again in a few days.

Mr. Woodcock

With all due respect, FZ. I dont think there is a long and distinguished record of teams pourposely losing to get better through the draft, free agency, or pure unadulterated luck. Even sucking for Luck wasnt successful.

Be careful what you want is the always the mantra and this is no different. Let's examine this strategy.

You get rid of all your best players and you bring in a guy to coach the team with zero head coaching experience.

Ok, so you get a bunch of draft picks for the good players and you get nothing for the guys you cut and you scouer the cut list and bring in dozens of guys at the last minute who didnt go through your training camp and were cut by other teams who are trying to win as opposed to the Dolphins because they weren't good enough.

So what do you get? 62-10, mission accomplished, you're on your way to Tankville and the supposed gift at ghd end of the Rainbow, lots of NES young highly touted rookies to fill your coffers.

Is that really what you want? Is that what's going to build a winning team?

Let's examine.

First of all you only get 6 or 8 first and second round picks for all of the proven good players that you traded. Now you draft 6 or 8 unproven "potential guys" that you have no idea whether they're good or bad in the NFL. Then there's the issue of your team's management's total failure to draft the right players with ghd draft picks that they had in previous years. What are the odds that they're going to now all of a sudden pick ghdvright players this time after the tank?

So what have you really done?

You have destroyed the core of your team, fostered and encouraged a losing attitude, doomed the new coaching staff to failure, created a horrendous working condition, and you still have no guarantee that all of these desperate negative moves is going to achieve long term success. And for what, for Tuva? Who the fuck is Tuva? How many passes has he thrown in the NFL? First all you know HD could be selling shirts at J.C. Penny three years from now.

This is a terrible strategy. And totally unnecessary if you had done the job right in thd past and brought in good administrators, let them do their job, had patience to let them build a team through thd draft and get and develop the right players for ghd system that you're running and take a quarterback high, high, high, in the draft every single year until you get lucky and draft one that is a winner and will take your team to the promised land.

That's hos you build a winning team, not by "Sucking for Luck."

OC Dolphin

The University of Alabama has developed an app which rewards students whenever they stay into the fourth quarter during home games. Apparently, Saban is not too pleased seeing the stadium empty out soon after blowouts are taking place. Remaining students are awarded points which can be redeemed later to obtain better seating during more desirable games in the schedule.

This is just an unverified rumor, but every home team the Dolphins play has requested a version of Alabama’s app for their own use.

FZB

Woods, I know brother, you make a sound argument for not tanking but consider this, the Dolphins have been mediocre for 20 yrs trying to get to the playoffs every year , they are close they tell us and it has not worked...blow it up and lets get some young studs in here..

We be better off in 2-3 years, we have an opportunity to really built this team to content for a few years, if they do things right, get a stud QB ( I still have high hopes for Rosen) once he is given his chance and fix the damn O Line..

Tom

Tua was awesome yesterday. He'll look great in teal.

This makes me nauseous but #GoPats.

the shadow knows

fellers,

looks like the bills got the best QB of that draft with wyoming's josh allen. by far the best art and leading the bills in a good way. will the dolphins gain 100 yards in this game? so far the minus, even with some bad kicking, is holding up.

the shadow knows

ENTER "THE BEAK", volume II

gores down on the first play; arizona didn't kiss him goodbye w/o reason. the minus looks safe at this point.

the shadow knows

DOLPHINS DOING "THE LIMBO ROCK"!!!!!

"how low can you go"? asked chubby checker in the early 60s; another chance for going ;lower as i believe the dolphins are playing the cowboys. FOX cut off the service to DISH so no 2nd game for me. with the dolphins on the road at dallas the game will be on CBS and unless they try to strangle DISH's customers will watch it next week.

the shadow knows

THUS FAR,....

kewllen moore is doing his job. still 14 games to go; let us see what he does to the woeful dolphin defense who can't stop or score at home- road games may feature a mercy rule.

Big Baby

The Beak came in and threw two perfect long passes one of which was an easy td. Grant dropped both. Very obvious who should have started the season as QB. If Rosen doesn't start against Dallas then this coaching staff has lost all credibility.

Mr. Woodcock

"Lost all credibility...."

AAAAAAHHHHHAAAAA.

What cred? They have never won a game. Come on B, right now these clowns are making El Camaron look like Knute Rockney.

Big Baby

I guess but the assembly of coaches is supposed to know what they doing coming from New England. They should know what a good QB looks like and right now it isn't Ryan Fitzpatrick.

OC Dolphin

Cam’s - “fail forward fast” has been replaced by Flores’ - “tank till even the Zum-Zum vendor wants to be traded.”

FZB

Boys... only 56 more quarters of misery left before the end of the season... hang in there.

Make the Dolphins Great Again!!!

the shadow knows

FZB,

i am afraid that "great again" is a long way off. plus, as good as he is, there is no guarantee on tua t being able to step into this mess and save the day. am seeing another miserable outing in dallas.

Big Baby

shadow it's a mess but two firsts and two seconds in 2020 and 2021 will hopefully help ease the pain. If it's a two year tank there there is always more options at QB. I still think Rosen can play.

Mr. Woodcock

Our last two firsts. The DE and safety are playing like shit so WTF. And to think we could have kept everyone and drafted Lamar Jackson last year. You think any rookie qb is going to play any better. Than how hes playing?

Let's face it, in life management is everything and if it weren't for mismanagement we wouldnt have any management at all.

It all starts at the top.

OC Dolphin

Top Ten Signs Dolphins are Tanking

10. Television coverage inexplicably switches to Three Stooges in “Three Little Pigskins.”

9. Sudden charges spring up that the Dolphins are causing climate change.

8. League Office mandates new rule allowing the Dolphins to start each drive from the Red Zone.

7. Members of the unbeaten team cancel their yearly celebration, so as not to remind they were once Dolphins.

6. Stephen Ross announces Pia Zadora as new owner.

5. Opposing teams begin using practice squad players when playing the Dolphins.

4. Stadium seats painted in various colors, so as to better camouflage attendance.

3. Team files for Federal Disaster Relief by mid season.

2. Reruns of “Maude” on The 70’s Channel drawing better ratings than Dolphins games.

1. The Dolphins re-branded as “The Flounders.”

Mr. Woodcock

Bye, bye, Finca or Minca, or whatever the fuck. It was nice knowing you.

Surely we can get a box of toilet paper in return for Dawn Aponte.......

Fantasy teams across the land are loading up on any player who play for whatever team is playing the Dolphins next.

My biggest concern is that the Jets without trying also finish 0-16.

"The Jets call heads. And head it is..."

Oh the horror.

the shadow knows

Mr. Woodcock,

true- the jets might turn out to be worse than the dolphins, if that is possible. don't think they can both finish 0-16 as they play each other twice; how's about two 0-14-2 teams at the bottom of the division? why in the world did the NYJ pick up the former dolphins coach. he looks like straitjacket material when he takes off that cap and reveals those lunatic eyes!!

Big Baby

Grier is fleecing teams for first round picks who think they can win Houston, Pittsburgh. Incredible job so far from this front office. Tunsil and Fitzpatrick never looked like first rounders here.

Big Baby

woodcock to your point now they have to turn those picks into players. The trust in that happening isn't there they have to get it right or more of the same.

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